Episode 124 | Peter's Angelic Perspective

Peter Benson (Viviane's Husband), of Energies of Service, joins Jeff Demmers for an exclusive, interactive Q&A focused on empowering you to navigate world events and cosmic shifts. Drawing from his unique angelic perspective, Peter offers insights to help you connect to celestial energies and support your conscious evolution. His vast experiences and global travels enhance the depth and relevance of the discussion.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

All right. Looks like we're on. We're on. Let's go. Yeah. Welcome to Infinite Star Connections. Uh, I'm Peter Benson and Jeff Demers. We're going to be doing an interactive QA today.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Glad to be here. Send in your questions. I got a few already.

SPEAKER_03 0:23

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Well, uh, Peter, uh, first, before we get started, I have a question on your stuff that you made uh a couple years ago. Remember this thing? Oh, the anklets, yeah. Ankle bracelet. Okay. And um it still works, but does it ever lose its its its power?

SPEAKER_00 0:47

No, no, the power is the only time I could lose a power is if the tensor ring actually broke. Um, so the copper may eventually break, but other than that, no. Uh, because a tensor ring is the just the structure to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Because I just keep it clean with never at all every now and then, just keep it clean and get all the stuff off it. Because my skin and everything. So interesting. I still use it, and I I think it still works. I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, they still work. Um, even if they start turning green, because now the newer ones actually have a cover that uh protects the actual copper mesh from getting frayed and getting caught with anything. Um, and since it's covered, it will actually basically uh it'll turn green underneath that cover.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Gotcha. Okay, cool. So um I got a question in the uh in the chat there about um from Carol Crawford about what happens after death. Now it's it's really different for other people. Now, I can only tell you by experience that the Zetas have taught us, or they they didn't, you know, they wrote books, uh, they ran it through Paul Hamden and um and a few others. These are the three-fingered Zetas are kind of tall, they're not the little grays or nothing, these are the uh guys of of all but knowledge, and uh they uh they claim that that there's an oversold, everybody has an oversold or a master soul, whatever you want to call it. And there are many versions of you, there's hundreds, thousands of versions of you experiencing the multiverse and different things, and when uh when when they when you collide together, like a doppelganger type happens, um, but um as far as the what happens between lives, um when your version, say on Earth, stops oscillating, um then you go straight to the over soul and you get reassigned to another life that you should take and live. But when you do that, it is almost instant. But the if you were to measure it on the earth's time, it could be 20 years, it could be 50 years, whatever, that that linear time doesn't exist after you after you leave here. So um your physical environment changes, but your inner, what makes you that always stays the same. You just are in a different sense. You might not even have a body, you might just be uh an orb or a soul or something experiencing what needs to be experienced. That's what that's what they they say. So there is really nothing to be afraid of because there is no pain after after you leave this. After you stop oscillating on the earth, there is no pain. Will you get hooked up with loved ones? If you want to believe that, probably, but uh you know, there there's really no there's no proof of that. People do uh experience familiarities of a soul that they've encountered, like uh, like a like a father, soul, mother, soul, grandmother, whatever. Um, and that form that they project to you will be that person that they once were. So um I hope that that kind of clears up. I mean, we can get really, really deep into this thing. And you know, my my past experience is this this past go around in um January. Um I I I was really intrigued about crossing over, and I wanted to, but when uh my experience was uh like a dingy dark hallway with lockers on the side, kind of the dark, and um there was no lighting at the end or nothing, it was just dingy dark, and then uh who I called Tilcombe, he came from off from the side and says that you know, what are you doing here? And I he was irritated with me, uh no big thing, it always happens. And uh I just told him that I just wanted to be, you know, I just wanted to experience what it was like to cross over. He says, There's nothing for you to do here, and then um there was a I don't know if he flashed a light, pushed his hand, whatever, anything, something happened like that, and I found myself uh woke up in the you know hospital bed again. But um, it's it's it is a strange thing, and um it happens to different people, and that is uh the death is uh when you are probably dying of something. I don't know about suicides, and I that also intrigued me too. What happens to that, unless that was already predetermined by your oversold that this will happen to you. So um I hope that I hope that explains it.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Yeah, I did um a lot of reading during my what do you want to call it, enlightening phase of life, trying to understand what what we you know what I was, and as I was going through that life reorganization. Uh, and I read a bunch of books uh from Michael Newton and Brian Weiss, and they do regressions on the life between lives. Um and it's really interesting where they go through the transition from one life to the next. Uh, and there is a whole once you once you actually exit the body, you no longer feel anything. It's you know, that's the physical body that experiences that. Um what you're saying is basically accurate at 100%. Um, and the other side is when you actually cross over, it is dependent on your the state of mind when you're passing over, um, and allowing you to see what you need to see. And usually a loved one is yes, they will take the form that you know them, but they may not be that on the other side. That may be just somebody from uh like your soul group or whatnot, uh, depending on what's going on with that. Um, it was actually very interesting. Reads, uh, The Journey of the Soul, um, life between lives. Uh, it's those books are really interesting and cover a lot of a lot of ground on that topic.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Yeah, and I like to go a little bit deeper into that. One of these days, uh, when the uh when the Isaiah is have their um their um readings again, I I like to get a little bit more in-depth and understanding the reason why it happens that way, and why more of the what the oversoul does and who it is, you know. Yeah, that you just can't believe that all the people on the earth have a single oversoul, but that I mean it could be what the hell do I know, you know.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Well, um, I don't know if it's at source, yes, we are all one, but source has broke uh fractured itself so that we actually have a higher soul so that we can all experience and learn and then you know merge back in with source. And what it's it's from Brian Weiss, Michael Newton, and Dolores Cannon, the amount of energy our soul actually contains would basically explode our physical body. We don't we our body cannot hold that much energy, so we basically fractures itself into smaller pieces so that it can incarnate and do the experience. So it's actually rather interesting when it when you actually dig into all the the pardon the pun, but facets of the soul and body and incarnation.

SPEAKER_01 9:33

Yeah, it is it is quite interesting, and I I think uh animals do the same thing, just not on this uh level that we're on, but uh but they experience that stuff too.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Yeah. Um yeah, it's been um it was those books when I started reading. I just I basically read all of the books that you know each one of each one of the authors had, and it basically put me on the path to where I am now. It was really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Have you known anybody or just talked to anybody that you had any type of uh NDE?

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Um uh well we know uh Danny and Brinkley, and he's had a whole bunch of NDEs.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

No, I mean, you know, besides that guy, I mean, somebody uh in in real life that has you know confiding to you or anything, like you know, a father or something.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

No, nothing on that not in that level. Um when I did have an interesting experience the night my grandfather had passed. We were my myself uh and my cousins were all at uh the Phoenix Zoo doing the the zoo lights. It was right after Christmas time. It was the year of the Malaysia uh tidal waves, it was right on that day. Um and my grandfather passed, and it was I think it was 10 o'clock Eastern time where he passed, and it was just after seven o'clock our time, and I literally felt him.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

What do you mean felt?

SPEAKER_00 11:11

I had the I just felt him. I was like, I literally looked around, I could feel my grandfather. It was one of those almost it was one of those knowings you just know and you feel. Yeah, I felt yeah, and I was just like, I just like, oh, okay. And I didn't understand what it was until we found out the next day that he had passed that night at that time, and then I put it two and two together. I'm like, whoa, that's what that was. Okay, now I understand.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Yeah, that's interesting. So I hope that answers your question, uh, Carol. And Kelly needs to ask you a question about uh an update on the big shift that happened in early April. What is that all about?

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Um I know we're going through a shift where uh the frequencies seem to be going up and causing disruption for a lot of folks, including us, um, you know, to the point where um, like for at least for myself, it's like disorientation. I can feel it's like looking outside, you feel like you're almost in a bubble, lensing kind of effect. Um and it's like an acceleration, lack of sleep. I mean, just waking up constantly. It's it's like almost creating a stressful environment for the body, uh, where cortisol is non-stop, where you know it's like trying to sleep, and your body just wakes up. You need to wake up, it's like um and we've had a you know a bunch of experiences along that line. Um, I'm not sure how much more detail we want to go into with that one, Kelly. Um but we did have uh some interesting experiences while we were in Nepal, um which was fun. Um you know, the energy shifts, uh depending on location. And you know, the energy over there.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Um in general shifts over there. Is it the people that cause the shift or it's the general population, yes.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

There it's it's like anywhere else on the planet. It's like when you go to a certain area, the energy of that location may be depending on if it's like a nexus point, similar to like uh Sedona, which is a nexus point, uh Geo Lions. Or if it's another place, it's like we went to Egypt, you can feel the energy, you know, where the people are kind of repressed, and you can feel that energy there. Um we could kind of feel the same energy when we were in Nepal. Uh it was really interesting. Um it was different, but it was still very similar. Uh and with the people there were amazing. Um, they were very kind, it was very interesting to you know see um and experience that. And when we were in Lambini, it was just uh, I mean, it was an amazing place to visit. You know, looking at the the German temple was our favorite. Um that we went to see the birthplace of Buddha and the experiences we had around there was really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Yeah, I really liked those pictures that she saw and um or uh took and everything, and just uh never would think that that would be a place to go to, but obviously it was a good good yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Um the first thing that we noticed when we landed in um Nepal was we were in Kathmandu, and the first thing you could tell right away was there was a lot of pollution in the air. Uh for both of us, our eyes started to burn a little bit and it was really hard to breathe.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

I see another one in Helena. Can I ask? I wonder why Gaea have made poison plants and animals that can kill humans.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

I know most people don't like this answer, but I'm gonna probably say it's Darwinism at its finest.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Yeah, I mean, uh yeah. You know. Everybody's got something.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

Well, you have to understand it's like if you take certain poisons and dilute it to the point where it's very it's not poisonous, it can be healthful, just certain things.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Yeah, I mean, just because it's poison to humans don't mean that it's poison to somebody else, right? No, it's a the checks and balances, so you know we don't overpopulate too much, even though we try to fight it.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Yeah. Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Now this one I cannot answer that one.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

It's gotta be with the uh landing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Yeah, that one I don't know, but last night um Vivian and I went out in our backyard and we were looking around, and it was really that was really interesting last night. Vivian was like, they're here. I'm like, what who?

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Um I got Ken L's, goddamn.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Well, she was looking up, we were looking up past our our tree out back. It's our guardian, and looking past it, and I'm looking up, and it almost looks like I was looking through a another like I was like we're experiencing a lot of this this month, like a lensing effect. It almost looked I was looking up at a wide angle lens above me, and I'm like, I almost feel disoriented right above us. And Vivian's like, why is the big dipper inverted? It looked, I've looked backwards, and she was standing there for probably about we were standing outside for about five, ten minutes, and it's wonderful here. The weather was wonderful last night, and she was literally getting a download, and it was really interesting. And the next thing we know, we look over just a little bit to the northwest, and the next thing we saw, we saw literally a shooting star right over our heads. I was like, whoa, space junk. No, that one wasn't space junk, that was actually a message because she was actually saying something, and that happened right at that very second. It wasn't even without even a blink, it was that time. It was just like coincidence or whatnot, but it was just one of those, it's like, okay, understood.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

I I I I I think that though that the Arcturians can come about anytime, anywhere.

unknown 17:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

To anybody. You just have to be conscious of it.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Yeah, no, it's um Bib was saying and that the galactics are the galactics are having a meeting as something is imminent from last night's message. We don't know what they did. They weren't specific, but it was a feeling of something is imminent. Yeah. Definitely could use it. Probably won't happen until next or till this week, Friday, but yeah, no, I had no idea what it's gonna do, what it was gonna happen. It's like you know, is it the timeline split? Is it an event? Is it, you know, no idea.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Well, this stops coming to a head pretty soon, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Oh, um, and Viv is resting, she's getting ready to do uh another interview tomorrow. We have to go to LA and back in a day, and then we're going to the Conscious Living Expo the end of the week.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Traveling everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Yeah, Viv is preparing and saving her energy for a bunch of stuff that we have to do this coming week.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Let's let's talk about your tensor rings more.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

You got a machine that makes these things too? That winds them up? No, that's me. It's you that winds this up, not a machine that sits there and twists everything.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Well, I use a drill, but it's all by hand. Holy cow. The crystals? Um, well, we're for the newer, the more recent revisions of it, because of what we're doing with the uh clear uh covering to protect it. We're trying to, we ended up using more of a crushed version of the stones, so it doesn't, it's not as bulky as they used to be.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Um, and it makes it easier to protect with the uh the people ask me about it all the time. I said it's you know it's like a brass knuckle. So I hit you with this with my wrist, you're going down, you know.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Oh, yeah. No, it's the um, it was like the the original pendants we were doing is a lot we were using larger crystals. Um, and then ended up being we moved to more of a smaller crushed version of the stones to actually give you more density of crystal inside.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Does it matter what size and do you get more energy if it's bigger or smaller, or does it matter?

SPEAKER_00 20:47

Haven't really noticed um because it the on a pendant form, but they're only so thick. And regardless of how big the crystal is, you're gonna end up uh basically grinding away a large large portion of the crystals if we do large ones. Um, in the larger the crystal, it they may end up popping out, which we've had issues with in the past. So that's one of the reasons why we went to the smaller crystals. They actually they hold into the uh the resins easier.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

And do the other crystals pull energy from the other ones that you got mixed in there? Um does one keep one charged or something, or the actual tensor rings do the charging and clearing constantly.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

The actual tensor ring does that work. Um that's the copper, right? Yeah, the copper piece. Um what's the that's the interesting piece, and that was known about the tensor rings even before I made pendants. Um Sperling used to take the tensor rings and you know put any object through it, whether it was a doll or a pillow or whatever it was, and it would clear the energy off of whatever item went through the tensor ring. So when we started making pendants and anklets with it, it was more of a It's an automatic cleansing for crystals as you use them.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

What was that? That was the uh Phoenix one years ago. Um I forgot the name, but we were there and you had these uh round giant ones, and um, of course, you put a chair right in the middle, and like, you know, whatever, I'm you know, sit inside one, see if it works, right? Uh it actually worked pretty well. I actually uh I actually felt like I was inside of a magnetism field or something. I really didn't want to get out of it.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Yes, the so that the reason that the pendants work so well and the anklets work well is because they create a tent uh a torus, a torus energy field, a donut energy field, uh around the actual copper ring. And the larger the ring, the bigger the field. Yeah, more powerful they become. So when we make them two, three feet wide, like we do for the you know, the pyramids or the chairs and stuff like that for events, uh, you're sitting in a field. And when you stack them, you have a whole bunch of fields coming together in conjunction, they all work together. Um, so depending on which one it is, it's the one we have a lot of fun with is that it's like a poor, it's like a vortex, it's a one-way vortex. So it literally sucks energy out of you or pushes energy back into you. And when it's like if somebody's been overloaded with whatever's going on in their life, they would stand in the now the pull inside where it pulls it down, you know, grounds you out, pulls everything out of you, and you have to step out when you feel like you're done, flip it over, and then it'll recharge you.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

And that's this is a kind of a dumb question, but uh I always wondered about this. Um, those those real big round ones, can you use it as like a hula hoop? Will that do anything like that to you?

SPEAKER_00 24:01

You know, the little bit of movement of everything, and uh, I think hula hoops work because they're light and you can actually swing them around. The copper tensor rings are usually you know four gauge, you know, either four gauge or six gauge, and that's heavy copper. You're gonna have to do some serious swinging to keep it airborne.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah, but I mean like um you're you're sitting on one side of it, you know, instead of it in like not a whole round, you know. You're sitting in the middle, then you got the whole field around you. Whereas if you put it on the ground, you're sitting on top of it.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

Yes. And actually, the with the pyramid, we actually would stack them underneath you and on top of them. Yeah, and it creates like a each one of them creates a torus, the torus field, the donut, but it also creates almost like a flashlight effect. So there's there's energy coming out of each one of the of the rings. So you're sitting in the actual that flood, the floodlight field of every single ring, and that's why people feel what they do when they're in the pyramids, because we usually have you know the full stack of rings from root chakra all the way up to star chakra, so it actually helps align you on every single chakra, every field, and it and it creates an entire energy field around you.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

How long should you uh stay inside of one of those?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Um the the pyramid we were we travel with is the Nubian, which is a it's more of a high-speed, you know, uh field where you'd actually want to be in there about what Vivian was doing sessions with about 20 minutes or so. And then after that, you need to go integrate because there's no time to integrate while it's doing its work.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

So I I can't take one of these big rings, slide it underneath my bed, and go to sleep.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Oh, you can, um, but it may end up disrupting your sleep over time. It's the same thing that's happened with almost everybody I've known I've talked to that is actually oh, I'm gonna put a pyramid over my bed and I'm gonna this is amazing, and they get in it, and for the first couple weeks, it's amazing. And then after that, they get too much energy, and then the next thing you know, their sleep pattern going on real quick, and wrinkles show up. Well, it's not a matter of wrinkles, it just disrupts your sleep pattern so much because it's too much energy. You're not letting your physical body change you know to rest. So at first it's amazing, and then it just you get it gets too much. Everything in moderation.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

Funny stuff. Have you ever considered offering a larger tensor ring for personal? Oh, yeah, I think you sell most, don't you?

SPEAKER_00 26:35

Yes, no, we do have um, we've we sold a few of the pyramids with a full tensor ring kit. Um uh we haven't done it in a couple, about a year or so. Um, but it takes it takes weeks to build the pyramid because the amount of work it takes to actually get the copper and clean it and polish it and make sure everything's fitted properly. Um and then the tensor rings themselves take time to build too. But yes, I do do those. Uh let's see. Oh thank you with the glowing continent behind me. That's uh world map with uh LEDs behind it. Interesting, Shane. Thank you. Um I saw an interview with someone in 2012 saying the intervention will happen in April of 2026 with Iran and Israel. Orbs will come up from the sea. Well, maybe that's the intervention that Viv is uh talking about. Never know. That could be it.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Orbs would come up from the sea. I don't know about an orb coming up from the seabug. Maybe a craft.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Yeah, well, I think the orbs are the craft, it might be the one and the same, but they're probably gonna use either holographic orbs or drones in the orb form to get people's attention in case somebody starts shooting at them. Not necessarily ships.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

I hope it's not project bluebeam, that's all we need.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Well, if we're gonna go probably product blue beam, it's gonna be more of an evil version of whatever that's gonna be coming. And I don't think that's what they're gonna be bringing. If it is, that will be the you know the negative timeline trying to come through. Um, and did Regulus initiate integrate energies on April 5th, Resurrection Day? I don't know. No, I don't know. There was something I had seen about the red star rising between the paws of the Sphinx. It was the beginning of April, supposed to have some sort of shift in the timeline as well. So I think we're you know, Viv and I have both understood that April is a shift to what extent on how fast every day is, or if it's the whole month, or if there's going to be specific dates or whatnot. No idea. But yeah, we've actually felt that there's gonna be a shift this month. And so far, we've seen a lot of energy. We're to the point where our definitely our energies and sleep patterns have been some you know just distorted quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Oh, it's not that one uh star that's gonna go nova. What they're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Which star?

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Beetelgeys? Beetelgeys or something? Yeah, beetle star.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

No, I don't think it's gonna go nova. I think that's a micro nova. Uh following Ben Davidson and what he talks about is uh the uh the physics understanding of how stars at one point they only NOVA'd and then they just blew up and they're dead. Um, but there's actually more and more evidence of more of like that's what he calls a micronova, more like a sun sneeze, where it picks up too much material and just blasts off a shell, a little bit of it, and you see an explosion off it. And that's what I think Beetlejuice did uh a little while ago when it got very dim and then it came right back.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Yeah, we're just now seeing it, so it probably happened a shit ton of years ago.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Yeah. Um, Ben's expecting that to happen on our star on a regular basis as we go through the galactic wave.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

We're still in that proton bill, right?

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Um, well, we're in the galactic wave now, yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

The north-south wave. The one you know, on a solar system basis, we do it every two weeks. On a galactic basis, we do it every what 25,000 years or something. Something like that. I think it's 12,000 years or something.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

See what else we got here? One of the best commands you can give to the Archangel Michael pendant other than for protection.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

What are the commands for an archangel Michael pendant?

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Yeah, I don't know what kind of protection you're talking about either.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

Well, it depends on the situation. Um, what are you looking to protect from? Um it's more of it's more personal than anything. Um, the the tool itself will create a uh an energy barrier around you to protect you. Um it also has the common clearing effects with the stones and it. Um so what you want to do is actually just give it an intention. Um try protect me from all negative energies and entities. Um, you can try and whatever if whatever you feel, it's it's more of an emotional connection to your because you're telling your body what you want to protect it from, and the pendant's going to help create it for you.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Is a pendant like a healing symbol where you got a set of instructions pertaining to that symbol?

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Um no, the pendants are so just think of it, there are etheric blueprints that have been guided by the archangels for me to create. Um they're each one has its own design. And a lot of them have replicated crystals in them with different tensor rings to create different frequencies. Now, the way that they're utilized after that, so what they do is they create a frequency for your body to understand. So when you're putting it on, it interfaces with your heart chakra, and that's why we have it worn at the thymist or heart chakra right in the heart area. And it tells your body how to tune to the frequencies the pendant is creating. So basically, you're telling your body what to do with itself and how to manage that frequency. So by basically telling the pendant what you want, you're telling your body what you want. So basically, you're teaching yourself how to manage your own frequencies and energies. So by tuning yourself to make me invisible to anybody who would do me harm, don't do that while you're driving, um, because people are stupid. Um, you will actually create a frequency where dark energies can't see you. Um, and that works really well.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

But if you're teaching your body how to create a a barrier to which they can't see you, and it's only two so so when you create these things, do you jumpstart the intention first, or is it just blah, then the person's gonna do it?

SPEAKER_00 34:20

The basic intention, the basic energies behind the tool is the etheric blueprint that I've been guided to create and build through. So, you know, as I twist the copper and do the welding and do all the cleaning, and then from there do all the copper work uh to finish that off and then add crystals, glow powder, and resin. Basically, it's built off of what the etheric blueprint is for it. So the archangels created it, so basically it's designed, it's gonna work exactly the way they blueprinted it. After that, it's what you want to use it for.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

How do you know that your intention has reached the object?

SPEAKER_00 35:02

That's the fun part. Um, usually you want to do is like for intentions, you want to have something you can use for an outcome. Um, the shamuel is usually the fastest one to understand that one, um, because working on emotional baggage that we all carry. So Shamuel is going to help you purge and remove the emotional charge from an event or whatever it is, a person or whatnot. So you can actually tell it to remove any of the um remove the energy from this event by its roots or whatever, and then basically you put that intention on there and you leave it for a day, a week, a month, and then you reset the pendant. And the next time you're challenged by whatever that event or person is, you'll see how you respond. And it's I it's basically you're purging yourself of all that emotional response. It's not you're gonna, it's not like you're gonna forget it. It's just that when you what you if it's a person you really can't, you know, really have a problem with the next time you see them, if it they don't bother you that much, it's like, okay, it's working, it's you know, you're clearing your emotional response to that individual.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

So you can reprogram or recharge these over and over and over and over and over, right?

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Yeah, you you just reset the when you tell it to reset, that's the resetting of intentions. And you can set you know, set your intentions for whatever you want, and then you can test the outcome after.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Okay, cool. That's a good one. I like that. Okay, I heard that Regulus is also connecting with us on April 26th. April 26th. A lot of stuff's happening this month.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

Yes, absolutely. Uh Manuela, yes, I had thought of filling the uh the pipes of a of a pyramid with quartz sand. Um the pyramid would probably end up weighing a couple hundred pounds, and it's not very economical to fill with that much quartz, and the weight of it for transport would be crazy. Um but if you wanted a pyramid and you wanted to go down that path, I would say you'd probably have a very, very powerful pyramid.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

What's a Raphael pendant?

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Raphael? I don't have a Raphael pendant. We have Michael, Metatron, Gabriel, Samuel.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

And I think we have that's a ninja turtle, right, Raphael?

SPEAKER_00 37:55

We have a Uriel in the process of um I need to just finish design on that.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Another stupid question is uh do they give the okay to uh user namesake for these things?

SPEAKER_00 38:16

The funny part is, is you know, I get the first one that came in was Metatron, and he he announced himself when he came in to do this stuff. Um Michael did the same, but then um Gabriel came in and told me to build something, but he didn't tell me who he was, so I didn't have a name for it for a couple years, and it was the multidimensional. And then like a year or two ago, he finally came in. It's like, fine, it's the Gabriel. You should have known this. I'm like, no, you're gonna tell me.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

Yeah, I don't know everything, dude. Come on.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Oh, and yeah, just so you understand, it's like Gabriel was a nuisance when it came to building a pendant. I was in the middle of I was in the middle of making uh Michael pendants. And the next thing, you know, it's like I'm building, it's like you get into a routine where you're not really there's no real thought going on. I'm just processing going through the copper, twisting it, cutting it, setting them all up, and repeating the steps all the way through it. And the next thing I know, it's like you make you have to make one with three. Yeah, and I basically it's like it's a thought coming through. It's like I'll get to it and I'll keep working. It's like you have to make one with three, I'll get to it. And oh, he was non-stop, he was on me for three days before I actually said, Fine, I'll just do it.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

You know, when these ETs, when you agree to do something, they are relentless. It's like, you know, dude, you know, there's other ones out there besides you, you know, but they want their stuff done now, you know.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

Oh yeah, and then he was being difficult about telling me who he was. It's like, oh, really? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Yeah. Put a name tag on, dude. What the hell? I don't know you.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

You said so, yeah. It's been the connection with him have been it's interesting at times.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

Oh my god, I know that. I mean, I I I still see I see stuff at my house all the time. I just gave up on it, you know. I just whatever.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Yeah. Uh double Kai. Uh, what are the what are the best commands you can give Archangel Michael Pennant other than for protection? Um, yeah, thank you for the product. It was great, had it for a while, now still amazing. Yes, there are the tools are very good and they will never stop working for you. Um Michael is empowerment. So when you're challenged, that's when the Michael really, really turns on. Um, it's like when you in a challenging moment, when you call on Archangel Michael to help you get through it, that's when you really kind of put on what you need on a Michael. Uh you know, it's like when you ask Michael to help you, you know, make it through this particular event, whatever it is. Um you have to understand it's like it's to either, you know, make it through the event, not necessarily physically, but more maybe it's more of a um for me, it was a more of when I was in in corporate, I had to actually go into meetings where, you know, I wasn't the top dog on the pole. I was actually more on the bottom. So I had to actually express myself and get my my point across without getting emotionally charged because people are being, you know, let's just say less than honorable and more ego than anything else. So you have to actually work around that without getting emotionally charged and telling them to go, you know, stick it. So in order to do that, you tell the pendants like, allow me to you know get my voice heard without overcharging it emotionally. Um, and dependent is designed for that, it has the crystals for that. So that's one of the bigger ones you can use for a Michael.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

Who is Slim Sperling?

SPEAKER_00 42:27

Slim Sperling. He was uh he was an old guy back in the 90s and 90s, um, and he had done a bunch of work in geo-dowsing, looking for energy lines, uh geodesic lines, the energy, the telluric currents, and all the different things about uh how Earth functions. And he used to douse like properties for the talluric currents coming in, whether it's man-made or earth-bound.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

Is that like a witcher?

SPEAKER_00 43:05

No.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

No, no, you guys that hold the things and they cross or something.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Yeah, he would use those, but he would use the uh he'd use a copper wire with a with a brass handle or whatnot just to hold it, or just a copper wire that's in an L shape. And he would actually douse to the you know, the like the the border of the property, and where the energy was coming in, he'd basically walk the property until it crossed. Okay, energy's coming in this one. And then he would actually take uh like a 10-inch, um, 10-inch copper wire, like really heavy duty, like four gauge with an L at the end. So it'd be like maybe an inch or two at the end. Um, and then he would hammer that into the ground right there. So 10 inches down into the ground with the L piece out, and it would the way that that would work is it would actually have energy coming from the ground pushing up right where that energy is coming into the property, pushing that energy over the property. So the taller occurrence or whatever would uh no longer affect you in the property. So that's where he first started. Um and then through because he was more of a, like myself, more of a mechanical engineering technician. He was more of like the technician type. You know, you give him a problem, he may not know the physics, but he'll try to find the solution. And he was working with physicists. So that was where the fun part comes in, where you'd have the guy who wouldn't actually know the theory and help design it, where he would be the one to implement it. Uh, and that's where the tensor rings came from through trial and error on that stuff. And he designed the original tensor ring was built um just haphazardly, uh single wire, and it created a positive and negative field. And then he found out that was a negative thing and it was not good. Somebody had a heart attack, and they brought him back, but he did have a heart attack by putting the negative side of a tensor ring on his on the on the heart chakra. Um and then they found that twisting it clockwise would create a double positive. But if you twisted it negative counterclockwise, you create a double negative, so it was not a good thing. Um, and Slim Sperling said he would never build one of those, and that's in his books. Um, so he created the positive, and then what they found out was the most energy you can get out of it was through using sacred geometry, geometries or measurements. So the measurements that were used in classical architecture, the Great Pyramid of Giza, uh the Tiwatuacan pyramid, uh Solomon's Cubit, the measurements from the great architects of the past. They knew more about you know the harmonics of things than basically in a public purview now. And that's where all the different frequencies are coming from. Um and as of late, a lot of the newer frequencies are actually doused in by gifted individuals and people that uh you know have insights. So, you know, one of them was the the Unity qubit that was actually brought in by me um years ago when I was looking for a solution to a uh problem for size.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Now, um, is this these sacred geometry like temples and stuff? Are they pulling from the earth?

SPEAKER_00 46:22

No, I think it's more of like the resonance. So a certain like when you're looking at frequencies, your your sine wave would be a certain frequency length. So it's like when you look at the the the sick, uh the we call it the these pyramid qubit, it's like 20 inches, 20.54 inches or something like that, is the qubit length, and that's what they use during the the building of the pyramid.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 46:53

It's like you using a foot or you know, or a meter. They're using that qubit, and they would actually standardize that, and everybody building would have a length of whatever it is they were using, whether it's stick or whatnot, they're all cut to the same length so that they could actually have a measuring unit. It's like having you know, walking around with a ruler.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

Yeah, because they would the old Egyptians would use um would use their knuckles to count. Yeah, you know, 12 knuckles.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Yeah, that may have been the qubit.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 47:31

So you know nothing is pulled out from the earth. Not that I know of, but everything resonates, so I can't say that for sure. More than you know, it's like if the sacred geometry of the earth, you know, you have to understand it's like the sacred locations where our Giza Pyramids, uh what is it, the Sedona, and there's a you know, you have one at the Bermuda Triangle, and was it Dragon's Triangle over by Japan? And there's a couple others on the planet, all at 19.5 degrees on you know, different locations on the planet. So it all those are frequency-based, so those are also you know, geometry, not necessarily length, but geometry.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

And then that's a whole new discussion for that uh for that 19.5 stuff. Yep. Yeah, that's even it's even on Mars, it's on everything. Even on the moon.

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Yeah, well, the monuments on Mars are using that 19.5.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

So that's that's interesting. I wonder if because uh if it's pulled from the Earth, you know, then I would wonder about the uh the inner Earth if that had anything to do with energy being um charged from, you know, where the energy is originating from, you know, where is the energy originating from in order for it to project out? Okay, you know, if you're gonna be able to do that. If you know that you know the universe is a is an electric universe, you could probably use that as a source of power. You know, but it doesn't necessarily would filter on down to our surface of the earth, you know.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

Yeah, well, I think every body, uh you know, the bodies that are created in the universe have a specific energy created when they're they're inception. Um, like our body will function barely without a soul in it, right? You turn into you know basically it's an automaton. Um, but once you have energy of a soul in there, you're you're actually alive and you do more things. And as we know it, earth has a soul, so does our sun, and every you know, all beings and creatures do. So I would say it's more of a consciousness as far as Earth is concerned, and its consciousness is frequent, its frequency is rising as well. So we're going on that path. Um, let's say SC, will Earth at one point change her movement to clockwise? I don't think I don't think we're gonna you know spin the top the other way. I don't think that's gonna happen. No, um, I think if you look at what Ben Davidson talks about on not necessarily a pole shift, which I think will happen, a magnetic shift. Um that happens on our sun constantly back and forth. Um, but I think we're going to actually have a what do you call it, a crustal shift by about 90 degrees, which has actually been seen in the archaeological records. Every 12,000 years or so, it goes 90 degrees and back every 12,000, like just because of the magnetic field weakening and then the energy into the fruit into the solar system. And the only thing keeping our crust stuck to the core is literally a viscous liquid between liquid to hard rock. If you add a lot of energy to that spot, it's gonna really thin out, and then the crust is gonna fall where it falls, which is the heaviest point on our planet, which would be the you know the poles, which have all that ice, and that's gonna want to go right to the actual equator. So Ben Davidson talks in great detail and talks about the science of all that, and he's quite an intelligent being, so I would actually check his stuff out.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

Agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

Uh let's see, Alan Alana, Elan, Alana. Um, what do you think about electrical electroculture? Actually, I was starting to look at some of the designs for some of those pieces, and um, because we're extremely busy right now, I won't be doing it right now, but I am going to look at doing some of that with the electroculture, some of the smaller pieces in our garden beds here in probably a couple weeks to see how well our uh see how well a garden grows. Um no double kai. No, there is no Raphael pendant at this time. That doesn't mean they won't come in and ask for one, whether they come through me or somebody else. We've had requests come in from other people with you know Uriel came in from somebody else. And it will be and it will happen. I just need to actually I I have the basic design for what it looks like, and now I just need to look at what the designs for uh the different crystal set for that particular pendant will be. It's gonna have to be doused all the way through. We have several hundred crystals, so okay. So Slim Sperring and his influence on the designs. Um Slim Sperling basically was you know the creator of the tensor rings or the rediscovery or republication of the the tensor technology. Um as far as his influence there, it basically he was you know following his designs for the actual rings themselves, was pretty much as far as his stuff went. Because I had actually started doing tensor rings and then wire wrapping crystals inside of them. That was the first pendants I had made, were wire-wrapped, and finding that those were extremely powerful with the you know one crystal that we can hang in there. Um, most of the time it was like a multibyte, and they were crazy strong. Um, and that's like, okay, so how can we actually embed more crystals in here? And it's it's more of a a process of innovation and endurance for the products that came through and what the end products have come to now. Um and then after after I figured that out, um, that's when Metatron came in and started talking to talking to me about making anklets, and then from there through necessity appended.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Have you ever tried using anything other than copper for your windings?

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Yeah, we've done silver, um, and it is more powerful. Um, but we're using a copper base right now, um, and we're doing gold plating. Um, it's more economical. And I'm looking at doing gold plating or silver plating as well, but that's to come. And we're looking at um, I made a couple pendants with uh because you can't go directly from copper to gold because the metals are they don't have the proper align uh available a lot with electrons to bond properly, so you have to have a metal in between. Um, for the majority of the pendants I do right now, it's nickel. Um, so we do super clean copper, nickel plate, and then gold plate.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

Um ye uh a nickel bat that we would um plate stuff, then we would go on tap in nickel.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Yeah. Um, so what I was doing, I did a couple prototypes of the same pendants, but the only difference was utilizing palladium as an intermediary. But the problem is palladium is super, super expensive right now because it's a you know a rare earth element. Um, but it also made the pendant even, you know, it's like a gold pendant over copper, it's like 10 times stronger. And the palladium version of it is even stronger. It's it's like I don't even know how much, but it was just an incrazy amount how more powerful and it's actually uh it was incredible. So the biggest issue is it's like I gotta figure out how to isolate the particular pendants and which ones are which. If it's either we go all in with palladium and then prices go up, or do we try to segregate it and create two different assembly lines and build put build processes?

SPEAKER_01 56:45

I have a question for you. Have you ever heard of a um element called niobium?

SPEAKER_00 56:55

Not off the top of my head, no.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

It is a it is a material that uh when it's it's out of the earth and processed, when you add energy to it, it changes color.

SPEAKER_00 57:15

Really?

SPEAKER_01 57:16

Yeah. Niobium, yeah. I just was wondering if you had any experience or any knowledge about that reason being that um if you were to coat something with niobium in your energy field um would change its color.

SPEAKER_00 57:40

Don't know. Um, I took a note, so I'll take a look at it and see what we can do with it. It's always worth looking into.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yeah, I think it's in the northern hemispheres where they mine it around Canada and round Montana-ish area. So I know that when you add certain uh certain amount of power to it, it it becomes invisible or it becomes black or red, whatever color.

SPEAKER_00 58:13

It would be interesting to see considering the tensor rings generate their own energy.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

Yeah, it would be interesting to see what would happen if it was coated with that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

Yeah, if we can actually do electroplating with it.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

I'm not sure about that because of it being charged, you know. So military uses it, so they're using it for something.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

Oh, no doubt. Gotta be something in there they like.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

What else we got here?

SPEAKER_00 58:53

And uh aha meg, yes.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

Huh? Everybody wants pendants made.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Yep. Right now we're we're working through what inventory I have left. Um, there's not a large amount left on the website, but we have what's left of the inventory at Sedonia up in Sedona. Um, they have the majority of the inventory. And if I need to, I'll may have to actually pull back the majority of that and put it back on the available availability for the website. Because we because we're going to be traveling a lot this year. I didn't want to compete with trying to get a lot of product built at the same time as traveling, and it would just be to me. I mean, my energy would just be through the floor, so I don't want to actually make products when I'm really kind of depleted. I don't think that's fair to anybody, uh including myself, and trying to get a certain state in order to make these pendants.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

Like, do you have to be like you know, you know, you know, feeling good, or you know, to be charged in such a way to make them?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:03

Well, it'd be like if you woke up completely depleted, you don't want to build the to the tools on that day. That's the kind of a thing. It's it's you have to have your energy, you know, at a higher rate, higher frequency. So it's like, you know, get up, you know, I enjoy my coffee, so have a coffee or two, have some breakfast, and if you know the energy is good, by all means go out and start doing some copper work, you know, the the spinning, the cutting, the forming.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

Yeah, because I would think that if you didn't, you know, if you felt like shit you're going to try to make it, say, here you go, here's your ring, you know, good luck with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

You know, exactly. You're you're you're gonna be in imbuing the product with the with uh depleted energy. That's what I mean. It's like you need to really it's right, it's a conscious work.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:47

Cool. Good.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:52

Uh yes, uh Meg, yeah, with all the the slim spurling and information. Absolutely. He was a he was a cowboy. You know, his the slim is actually his nickname from when he was in the when he was in the navy. Because he was this skinny tall dude. It's like they called him Slim, and it stuck. Um and then copper has an element of frequency transmitter. Copper is actually the heart metal. It's uh one of the freak one of the metals that actually has a designation for a chakra. It's kind of interesting. Uh he was born and incarnated in Egypt and want to come back as a cowboy. Yeah, I never know. Yeah, the tensor wire twisted to the left counterclockwise to take out a negative energy. No, that takes out life energy. Um so when you're twisting a tensor ring counterclockwise, it is anti-life. Clockwise is life. Um, the difference between that that particular comment and utilizing like the portal ring, the portal ring is created with a life tensor, life twist, so a positive twist. And the actual vortex itself is actually just drawing energy. It's not a net it's not an anti-life, it's just drawing energy as if it was like uh uh one-way vortex. So it pulls it in one side and pushes it out the other. Okay, tune by nature. What does this mean? What does that have to do with resonance? Okay, don't know what your reference or referring to. I think we're a little bit out of sync on the okay, so Shelly, with uh about a seven-inch diameter, I'd have to look it up and see what the actual diameter would be for it. Um but a headache and headache goes away. Yeah, you're it's more than likely it's something similar to the sacred cubit that Slim Subberling was talking about. And it actually works on the physical body realigning the frequency. That was the one that Slim Saberling brought into existence. We were using the one from the Great Pyramid Resonant Frequency of Hydrogen, which we are made up a lot of. Oh yeah, sacred geometry stuff is good. Yep. I'm pretty much focusing on the tensor size, the tensor things with the frequencies of the qubit lengths, um, and the two pyramids. I was thinking of creating a giant Merkaba with resonant uh resonant cuts of length of copper and actually being able to sit in the middle of it just to see. Yes. The Octurian pendant was the one we made, it was a short-term build that had some of the Sedona red rock that came from the Octurian vortex up in Sedona. I remember that. It's got some Labradorite in it too. It's a really nice pendant. The Ben actually covers some of that detail um and it's more like the crust is a Is really not that thick comparative to the size of the planet. Um, but what the the actual data that is available actually shows the resonance into or through like I think it's either through radar or whatnot, there are sound that pump penetrates the entire planet, they can actually figure out how the density of rock goes down into the core. And there are large roots that go down from some continental shelves that can be pushed up and pulled back down. The largest one, I believe, is under Africa, and that one goes down quite a bit. Um it's interesting to see, it's like, wouldn't that create a wobble? But I don't know. Um, but yeah, it's interesting to see the actual data that we do have about the structure of our planet and whether it's liquid or more solid rock. And the one thing that always boggles my mind, it's like, oh yes, we have what is it, two times more water underground than we do on the surface, and considering our cover our planet is covered with two-thirds with our three-quarters of water. It's like, okay, how much water is under the crust? My god. That always was interesting. Um, and Mike, um you're planning to do some electroculture. So, yes, I went out and I did uh a search for STL files for forming the copper wire for the electroculture. And I found a couple on uh what was it, printables, so you can 3D print some of the uh the the forms, so you can actually you know put the copper wire on that form, and it's got the grooves already pre-designed for it, so you can actually create a proper design for the coil and the windings. So yeah, I'm gonna be building some of those out to see how well those work. It might make them even because they're you can scale it on the on the the software called the slicer to make it bigger or smaller, depending on what your needs are. So looking forward to doing some of the the printing of those and see how that works. Uh Crystal, um the big tensor rings, I will be bringing those back, but I need to get some I need to get some help building with the copper side of things because that's that those take a lot of effort to put together. Um and the amount of copper it takes and the time it actually takes to actually spin out that length of wire, it's it's quite a bit. So they are they will be coming back. I just need you know, time and some some help with the copper side of things. How do you measure strength?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:07

Um that means the thickness of your um uh copper.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:13

Um, well, measuring the strength is usually by sensitive individuals. Um, I'm not as sensitive as, you know, it's like usually about as sensitive as a brick. Um, but there's a lot of other people that are far more sensitive than me. And they'll pick up one pendant versus another, you know, regular copper versus the high polished copper versus a gold plated, and they can definitely feel the difference. And I've had a friend of mine is actually do some dowsing on it, um, in the standard copper versus a gold, the gold is about 10 times stronger. Um, and it doesn't surprise me considering you know the gold's allure and the energy behind gold.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:56

I got a I got a question for you. I I don't know the answer. Um, but um when people would sit there and go to find water, they got these these um I don't I forget what they're called that that move and then point down where the water is. You ever seen that before?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:16

Yeah, that those I believe those are willow branches. I think they use willow branches. I think so. You can use dowsing rods as well. Um you're use you're basically using your own energy field to connect with Earth, and you're basically asking a question and it shows you where it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:34

Oh, okay. I thought maybe the water has something in it that it's like saying, Hey, we're over here or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:42

I think it's all it all has to do with consciousness and intention.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:46

I didn't believe that, you know, and uh I seen a dung and like ain't no water there, and it dug it it found a well. Okay, damn.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:57

Yep. The last time I saw that was oh, good. I was my I was a kid. My grandfather was had a had a house on the lake, and they had a shallow well from the day it was built, and they were starting, you know, and because it was a shallow well and it's on a lake, they could start actually tasting because the what the the lake got very popular. He could start tasting the you know the fuel and the oils in the water. It's like okay, they need to go to a deep well. So they got somebody to come in and they doused the property, and they found it's like right here. They doused the spot and they drilled it and they got water at the the closest to the surface as they could, right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

It was it was really that this was an old guy mean an old guy, and um you know, we were kind of you know, like we were young, stupid. You know, what's he doing? He's grabbing this this branch and he's squeezing it, and then he's walking around, and then the thing moved down, and like, what the hell is that? He said, Yeah, there's water right here, and they dug there and they found the wall.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:02

My wall learned something else.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

The thing is, it's like we don't understand the capacities of our own being and the utility of it's like a willow is so you know a water-seeking plant, right? A tree loves water, so if you have a willow branch and you can get one like that, it's like, yeah, it's gonna seek water with your intentions to find it as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:27

It's extremely wild, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:33

Um Carolina will boot master Buddha mass a sananda be made into a pendant in the future. I don't know if I can do another Sananda, the one that's up on the right behind me, right here. That's the big one I wear. That one is basically a Sananda. That one took multiple like that one took me three weeks to build because of the intricacies in it. Um I don't know. We'll have to see what we can do with that. Any okay. It's not in the main any of the major pendants we're doing right now. Uh and so silver has skyrocketed. Um not necessarily no beryllium. At least at this time. I don't have any of the crystals at this time either. Um crystal. Um, as far as color change, I don't know if that's that metal you're talking about would be interesting to see if a color change been on any on the on their frequency.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:13

Um that's subclassified, so I'd say, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:21

Um, we were looking at possibly doing something a little experimental to see if it would work. Um, and using creating a pendant specifically with similar to the Sananda one, but with the seven chakras and glow powder specifically for that chakra. So, you know, red for root and orange, reshake, sacral, uh, yellow for solar plexus, this kind of thing, and all the way up, and seeing if, you know, depending on where your energy is, which one would light up more or less. And I we were gonna I'm I still have that idea coming through, but just not sure how to implement it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:10

Let's see.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:50

You have brass ones what, Baja girl?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:56

I don't even want to ask that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:08

So, okay, so could be uh drinking from copper water bottles. So anybody drinking from copper or silver, you're gonna be drinking the ions that are coming from uh the metals, and those ions destroy pretty much anything of a negative bacteria or viral or fungal kind of infection. Um, and that's why our grandparents and great-grandparents used to wear copper bracelets because your body would absorb the copper constantly, and yeah, your skin would turn green or black depending on your alkalinity. Um, but it it's neither here nor there. Your body will only absorb so much what it can what it can absorb on your skin. Um, my daughter drinks out of a copper water bottle constantly, and um I'm about to actually put a copper, uh a good copper wire, about six, eight inches, in our bird baths to see if I can actually keep it from actually growing algae. So that's something I'm gonna be playing with here.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:12

Does it do anything to the water?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:17

Not necessarily anything negative, it's going to create basically it's an ionized version of water with the copper ion, you know, kappa ions or the silver ions. They used to use it to actually keep milk from going bad. Way back when that's where you would have the the you have silverware. Um, they would actually have the silver water you know pitcher that would keep the water from having any bacteria in it or going bad. So you can actually take a water jug out of the river in silver, and anything that was living in it will be killed. Um and when you had milk, they would actually throw a silver coin in it, regardless if it whatever was glass or whatnot, and the silver coin would kill keep the bacteria from growing and keep the milk good for a lot longer.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:00

A lot of farms use that uh technique, that um silver technique for the milk and the cows. Yep, still do that today.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

Yeah, it's like trying to find some a farmer locally that can actually get some some nice raw milk and then basically throw a nice silver coin in there and keep it from going bad or anything negative in there, and drink your raw milk without having any warnings from the you know government saying, Oh my god, you're gonna die.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:32

What about zinc? As far as drinking from zinc, not so sure about zinc.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:40

I know your body requires it for a lot of different processes, so um, but again, it's anything in moderation, so it's you make anything with zinc? Not really, no. I make I've done um I have some pieces of zinc, I don't have a lot of zinc, and once I get enough, I'll probably make a coin out of it. But other than that, no. Um, so Sandy actually has a niobium earrings and they have a very specific energy.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:28

Keep those protected.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:35

Um, the chemicals in water react with copper. Um, yes, usually. It's like if you're if you have concerns about chlorine, just basically get a water bottle and or a jug, and even if it's RO water and it doesn't pull it out completely out, just leave a pitcher out, let it air out for a day or two. The chlorine will evaporate. Um, as far as any other chemicals, it probably will because it, you know, copper does have the reaction. It's it's actually very positive for the human body, so it's not a bad thing. Um, but as far as chemicals concerned, I'm sure it will react. And it's like I'm waiting for our hospitals to start waking up and going back to a copper for everything instead of stainless steel.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:25

By the way, copper prices are it's it's gonna be possible for get that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:32

Yeah, copper is still reasonable, silver is out of control. Um and stainless, it depends on you know what they're gonna be doing with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:40

But you know, different grades are stainless too.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:43

Yeah, the science behind there was a when they were having a like a this what do you call it, the MERS, the staph infection and you know, outbreaks probably a decade or so ago in hospitals. They did a test on a plate of copper and a plate of stainless steel, put the MERS virus on it, and just sat there and watched. Yeah, 90 seconds later on copper, it's all dead. 90 seconds later on stainless steel, it's growing. So, why wouldn't you use copper all over a hospital? It doesn't make sense to me. It's like makes you chef copper.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:23

Well, when it kills, I mean, when the when the copper kills that bacteria, there's a there's a residue that's gotta be cleaned off of that too.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:34

Oh yeah, oh no doubt. You can't just leave it dirty, you're gonna be cleaning it, but they're cleaning stainless steel right now, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:41

Yeah, you gotta keep that copper clean all the time, even those cups gotta keep the that shit clean.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:50

Yeah, I mean you don't have to keep it spotless clean. Uh just you know, keep it, you know, they wiped it down, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:04

Oh, that's a good question from Anna.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:10

Uh having the water too much, having too much time in the water, uh water in the copper. Too much copper intake. You can have too much copper intake because it is a heavy metal. Um so yeah, I mean my daughter pretty much has a water bottle and she drinks out of it nonstop, so um, I don't think it sits too s you know too long just sitting in there. Yeah, that's why they put silver and coins and uh steam puddings. That way I kept it you know sterile. Copper's too shocking. Well, it does conduct well, doesn't it? Well, that's why I kind of went one kind of wondering like why they phased out having copper in everybody's homes as a plumbing.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:17

You can't keep everybody healthy, man. Come on now, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:20

Oh, yeah, exactly. Can't do that, gotta use something that doesn't sterilize the water as you know take it through the pipes, uh huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:28

Yeah, gotta control that population growth.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:36

Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I was hoping, you know, hoping our new house actually had that, and we found out it had the pecs, the plastic lines. I'm like, oh damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

No, we have copper in his in my combo right here, so I mean that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:51

Yeah, no, it's it's a good thing. I like having the copper and the plumbing. Um, it's you know, you still have the metal taste to it, and it's just normal. Uh you know, I suppose the pecs probably does taste better. You don't taste the plastic, but again, it's it is plastic, so is it what are we dealing with microplastics? We haven't even gone down the rabbit hole of that stuff, um, of how far we're doing with this. And it's like, now that we're finding out about microplastics and what happens with it, it's like, why is why are plastics still used?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:22

Just open up uh bunch of rice and put it in the pan and see what melts.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:28

Exactly. You know, half the rice is plastic pellets, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:32

Yep, say half, but you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:36

Oh, I know. Some of those videos, I was like, oh my god, really?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

I tried it, yeah. I'm like, I mean, damn.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:44

So yeah, at this point, I'm like, you know, I'm looking more at it's like, let's go back to glass jars, glass, you know, all that stuff, but the system isn't designed to go back right now. No, and they need to get rid of the plastics because it's gonna it's getting into everything. Yes, and cheese too. That's a lot of plastic. Well, a lot of our food is chemically derived at this point.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:12

Yeah, real cheese does not burn, come on now.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:16

Oh, yeah. And real cheese does go bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:21

Your whole body's a walking piece of fungus anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:27

Yes. All right, what else we got in here? Yep. Yep, sparkling water. I prefer it when we get it at um at Costco when they have the really the big glass bottles, which are much better for you. And thank you, Crystal. Yeah. Um I'll work on it when we have more time later on this year. There's a couple other ones I want to do too. We still we still have the paperwork and the designs. Um, and I think the tensor rings pulled out for uh the starseed pendants as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:18

But I mean, did you have you ever wrapped it too tight?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:25

Um for pendants, not really. Um, I tend to be a little looser on the pendants uh for the larger rings on the pendant. But when we're doing like the Metatron and the Michael that have the small ring in the middle, I tend to go real tight with those just to make it it's it's it's looks better. Um and they're not as powerful beside besides the smaller the ring, the weaker it is. Um and we did some of the two or three foot rings really, really tight, and the energy is very distorted, it's erratic. So it's almost um, I think the proper twist is about a 60-degree twist.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:12

Interesting, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:16

That's what this one is. Yeah. Uh anklets I do. The anklets I tend to be a little bit tighter um just because of the way it forms and the way it moves, it makes it more robust for flexing because people open them up and close them down, open them up, close them down.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:33

Yeah, I get close up and close it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:36

So it basically doubles the copper content in each side, which actually gives you a little bit stronger. So that's why those are tighter as well. But yeah, I made a couple of big ones and I had Vivian test them. She was like, Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. This is way too erratic. It was like the flashlight when you stood in the that stood in it, it's not a straight line, it was going like this, it was bouncing all over the place. It's like it's totally erratic. So take you no, you can't do it that way. And we found that that's just about the 60-degree mark on the the twist, and you can feel it when you're twisting it when it's right, and that's how I I go by feel of it when I twist the oh like a long dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:14

So you use Vivian as your test subject? Are you kidding me? Oh yeah. Good luck with that one.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:24

She's far more sensitive than I am.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:26

That's right. When she starts shaking, it's too tight. Okay. You back off a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:35

Yeah. Okay, so crystal. Oh, okay. So tensor rings. I thought you meant something bigger. So, Crystal, the rings I make, I used to make them for finger rings. Now I don't do those because those are taking a large amount of time per product and it'll take a long time to actually set and build them out. Um the construction side of it was rather intense. But now we do, you know, the you know, the regular size for a pendant, and then we have the smaller one in the middle, which we use for, which is actually the heart chakra in this inside of a Metatron and Michael. And that's the same one we use for the pet pendant, the little ones. Um, other than that, once we actually get to the big ones, we're talking a two or three footer, you know, it's not just big, huge, and you can sit in those, uh, put them under a chair, or we put them in the pyramids. Up on top and below the pyramid. I hope that helps, Crystal.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:56

Good questions today. As usual.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:02

Yeah, thank you for the uh well-wishing on the travels this week. It's gonna be crazy. We're gonna be on a plane a lot, which is airports. Maybe black with white waves. What's that referencing, Jennifer?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:29

Yeah, I don't know what that means. Well, it is 3:30 and we gotta go. Yeah. Well, our next uh podcast will be May 3rd with uh Mel Mentor. Another good one. It's gonna be an exciting one, so yeah, that sounds like fun. It's gonna be interesting. We're gonna be talking about his latest and greatest book, so that's cool. Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:05

All right, well, thank you everybody for all the questions, and I hope we answered the questions for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:12

You can always email uh Peter if you want more specific questions answered.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:18

Oh, yeah, you can always connect to me through the webpage or you know, Pete Energy's of Service.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:23

Here you go. Good luck, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:28

Yeah, have a great couple weeks, and um, I know you guys uh you and Viv will be back in what I think three weeks, two weeks, three weeks.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:36

Yeah, whatever, whatever May 3rd is that while everything's running together for me right now, so whatever. Yeah, I'm around, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:47

Perfect. All right, cool. Well, thank you everybody, and um we'll see you on the other side.